Katie Couric's recent Instagram Live interview with ... "I think he's closing his eyes because he's just thinking very deeply about points that you and I are making," Goldsmith joked.

"People must roll their eyes and say, 'Oh ... which led to a surge in screenings dubbed the "Katie Couric Effect." Start the day smarter. Get all the news you need in your inbox each morning.

Katie Couric is officially a grandma ... "Both he and Mark played lacrosse in college," she continued. "In my mind's eye, I can see them tossing the ball around with their sticks, teaching ...